12 July 2011 @ 03:08 am
King For A Day, part 10/?  
Title: King For A Day, part 10/?
Character(s)/Pairing(s): Shosanna/Fredrick, James Mayhew, Helga Zoller, mentions of the Zoller sisters.
Rating: R
Word count: 8,504
Summary: Together, Shosanna and Fredrick make it to Munich. Their lives are just beginning.
Notes: With the direction the story is taking (and for the directions it will take), I have created an information/character post to accompany KFAD: [clicky-clicky]

The story so far: | information/cast post | 01 | 02 | 03 | 04 | 05 | 06 | 07 | 08 | 09 | 10 |



The remainder of that night was lost to them.

The two rested, bodies nestled into one another; but it never lasted long, as they were far too absorbed with each other.

Shosanna and Fredrick spoke more, of simple things. Things, that, perhaps in the grander scheme of the world, did not matter much, but it mattered to them. It brought them comfort and consolation in the face of all that awaited the two.

Her face nuzzling his neck, Shosanna spoke until her voice trailed off to nothing and sleep claimed her.

Fredrick's voice came broken and rough as he murmured her name. It was selfish of him, he knew, but his want - his need - for her overcame all else. The sound of his voice was enough to pull Shosanna back into consciousness.

She rolled Fredrick onto his back, and stretching her body out over his, the two made love once more for a very long while. They moved together in a smooth, unhurried rhythm until, tremors overtaking them both, they found their release with one another.

Arms wrapped tight around her, Fredrick did not yet want to let go of Shosanna; did not yet want to lose the press of her flesh against his. It was all too perfect, too beautiful when they made love.

Fredrick looked up into her green eyes. They appeared darker now, half-lidded with sleep and infatuation. And there, near her left eye, her scar.

Her scar.

It was a fleck upon her otherwise perfect skin. It betrayed her in a way, revealing that part of herself, her story, which she fought so hard to conceal. Fredrick had noticed it when the two had first met, but he never could have imagined its violent origins.

His mind wandered; back to the night the war ended.

Surely, in the projection booth, Shosanna had felt as he did; trapped in that bell tower. But whereas Fredrick had a home with a family to return to, Shosanna did not. She had nothing left, not even her name, which had been ripped away from her. She had been so completely willing to destroy herself, to end the war and to reclaim all that was rightfully hers.

And he, Fredrick Zoller, a foolish young boy, was unaware of it all. All he knew was that he loved Emmanuelle Mimieux.

Emmanuelle Mimieux, who was beautiful and special, though he couldn't place why.

Emmanuelle Mimieux, who was Shosanna Dreyfus.

If only he, Fredrick Zoller, German War Hero, had known.

Fredrick Zoller, who, in his mad desperation for Emmanuelle Mimieux to understand him, hurt her. She could have killed him. But she, Shosanna Dreyfus, did not.

Throughout it all, she had more than ample opportunity to leave him, to turn him away.

Yet she did not.

Throughout it all, Shosanna was with him. She loved him.

Here, now, in their room, in this bed, Shosanna held tight to Fredrick just as he held her. With her lips against his neck, her breath was a soft whisper against his pulse,

"Rest, Fredrick, rest."

The sky passing by their window now a light gray, Fredrick closed his eyes.

~


Red.

She was swathed in it.

It was the color of the fever in her blood; oppressive and hot, which consumed her.

It was the color of her blood; warm and rich, that poured from her abdomen.

It was the color of the flames; bright and burning, which rose to meet her.

It was the color that defined her madness.

Red.

Sprawled on the floor, her body ached. Eyes squeezed shut, she turned her head in his direction, to face him. She had to confront the sight of him.

She opened her eyes.

There, he lay where he had fallen; unmoving.

She could have wept, if she had the fortitude to do so. But even in her weakened state, she called out to him, her voice rising above the destruction that surrounded them.

"Fredrick."

He did not stir.

Nearly far too much for her to bear, she still persisted. Throat dry, she roughly swallowed and brought herself to try again,

"Fredrick!"

He gave no response.

Desperately, Shosanna gathered the entire strength of her broken body, bringing herself to roll over onto her stomach. It was a quick, forceful motion; the sickening, wet slap of her bloodied torso against the hard wood floor rang out, both causing her to grimace and struggle for breath.

Reaching Fredrick would be as perilous as scaling the heights of Piz Palü, it seemed, but it had to be done. Time was not on their side.

Gritting her teeth and tightening her body, she cajoled and pleaded with her muscles and tendons into cooperation. Every fiber throbbed, every cell screamed as she clawed and scratched her red nails into the floorboards, pulling and dragging herself to him, leaving a trail of red behind in her wake.

Though she was wracked with excruciating pain and a sob caught in her throat, she could not stop; she willed herself toward Fredrick, her absolute desire and need to be near him providing her momentum.

Joining his side, she managed to raise a hand to his cheek, gently touching his face.

He was unresponsive. Fredrick was dead.

The fire roared around them, the flames having eaten away everything; everything which she had so willingly sacrificed.

She had nothing left.

Shosanna was well and truly alone.

The room fast filling with dark smoke, she clung to him. She touched and kissed him wherever she could; her lips smearing red on his uniform, over his chest full of medals, along the length of his neck, over his jawline, and to his face. Reaching his mouth, she covered it with her own, hard and bruising.

Though her lungs now burned and her body was rife with agony, Shosanna wept; openly and bitterly.

She wept for her family.

She wept for Ada.

She wept for Marcel.

She wept for Emmanuelle.

She wept for Fredrick.

She wept for herself.

Bleary-eyed, she could no longer see Fredrick's features through the haze and her tears. Features which she had come to memorize and know so well in their fleeting time together; features of the only person who had been able to break through her self-imposed barriers to reach the tenderest parts of her.

And so, she held tight to him.

There was never anything more than the two of them.

~


Shosanna awoke wide-eyed in the pale light of the morning.

Panicked, she rolled onto her side in a near violent jerk. There beside her lay Fredrick, sleeping soundly; his face serene.

She had to be certain.

She watched him; watched as he slept, her eyes fixed on the rise and fall of his bare chest.

The sky outside above them now brightened as onward, they continued towards Munich.

Shosanna could not help but smile.

Needing to feel the strong pulse of his body coursing through him, she curled herself into Fredrick, the rhythmic beating of his heart lulling her back to sleep.

~


It was mid morning when Fredrick awoke.

Shosanna laid half-way on top of him with her face buried in the crook of his neck, her breath soft and warm against his pulse. Along with that, her hand was palm flat on his chest near his heart, and her leg was hitched up and draped over his thighs. Never before had Fredrick felt so comfortable.

Lying in bed with the woman he loved and on a train headed for home, he was contented, even in the face of the previous night's turmoil.

Soon enough, the two would find themselves in Munich; with his family.

Fredrick thought of Helga; of how she would react to the sight of the German War Hero, back from the dead with the woman responsible for the end of the war in tow. Of course, Helga would see him as he was: her baby brother. She would, above all, be overjoyed to see that he did not in fact perish in a theater in Paris, France.

And that she would - he knew with complete certainty - easily welcome Shosanna into the lives of the Zoller family.

That would be how Helga Zoller would come to know Shosanna; Shosanna Dreyfus, not Emmanuelle Mimieux. Never again would Shosanna have to live under a pseudonym. Never again would she have to hide her identity, her heritage.

No matter what, Helga and the rest of the Zoller sisters would love and accept Shosanna - they had to - because they were his family and because he loved her so.

He smiled, wide and open.

He finally felt a certain degree of peace.

He also felt as Shosanna's body shifted against him with her smooth, silken thigh rubbing against his own; so much so that he found himself terribly aroused.

Sucking in a breath, Fredrick wriggled beneath her with an anxiousness. She moved again; her knee gently, ever-so-lightly brushing against his arousal. Releasing the breath in frustration, he looked to the ceiling.

As Fredrick contemplated how to best handle the situation, he could feel Shosanna move once more as she now nuzzled his neck; could feel as her lips formed into a smile against his throat.

~


Fredrick stood by the bedside, his fingers fumbling with the buttons of his dress shirt. It was one given to him by Edwige, having previously belonged to her brother. White and long sleeved, it was well tailored with small, polished buttons; buttons which were posing a problem for him.

Dressed in a pale silk robe that belted tightly at the waist, Shosanna was sifting through their suitcase, picking out something to wear. It was simple, mundane even - the daily ritual of waking up and getting ready for the day ahead. However, as Fredrick watched Shosanna lay her clothes out on the bed - undergarments, a slip, and a golden, scoop-neck dress - he realized it was a day-to-day ritual that they would continue to share together; from day-to-day to year after year.

Casually, Shosanna tugged at the belt of her robe, pulling the knot loose. Shrugging off the garment, she let it fall into a heap on the floor, revealing her bare body. Bathed in sunlight as it poured through the window, she was golden and resplendent. Fredrick stilled his manic fingers and watched her; his eyes traveling over her like a man discovering a treasure.

He smiled.

In that moment, a thrill coursed through Fredrick. It went beyond her nude form - though the sight of which never failed to stir him - to something far more vast. With a soft sigh, he finished his task, tucking the shirttails into his finely pleated slacks.

Shosanna, taking notice of her captive audience, turned to Fredrick, her eyes meeting his. There was a seriousness, a tension, etched in his features; for the swiftest of moments, she felt vulnerable, exposed. Shosanna was cautious, expressionless. It made him think of her photograph in her forged papers; not of Rachel Schwarzbaum, but of Emmanuelle Mimieux. Fredrick suddenly felt awkward and imperiled.

The two were silent for a while, holding each other's attention without word or movement. It was as if time stood still. Fredrick could hear the footsteps of another passenger making their way down the hallway, could hear a muffled conversation through the wall in the room next to them. Thinking of the previous night's activities, which carried over into that morning, he almost smirked, knowing that if it were just a few days earlier before his relationship with Shosanna had grown into what it was, he probably would have fretted over what others would have thought, had they heard them.

Even still, surrounded by the goings-on and lives of others, Shosanna remained his sole focus. There was something in the way she looked at Fredrick. It was always there, a kind of intuitiveness; she was able to trace the genealogy of his feelings and thoughts.

The corners of her mouth turning up, Shosanna stepped forward, bringing herself close to him. Carefully, she laid a hand upon his chest, feeling the rise and fall of it as Fredrick breathed and the beating of his heart against the flat of her palm. Then, tilting her head up, she lightly touched her lips to his, kissing him. Tentatively, Fredrick brought his hands to rest on her hips, holding her to him. Shosanna smiled against his mouth, and in response, Fredrick very slightly tightened his grip on her, giving a gentle squeeze.

There was a desire present between the two, but it was fueled by something far more than just a physical need.

Fredrick could feel the immense thrumming of Shosanna's heart through her chest against his own. He slid his hand from her hip to her lower back, and there, it settled, flattening against her flesh with his fingers fanning out and pressing Shosanna to him.

Never before had they felt so safe; their only fear was that of interruption. Neither could feign confusion with what was felt, yet unsaid between them. Neither could deny how far they both had come, nor could they ignore how the difficulty of their connection had increased its ferocity; how alive with courage and fervor it was.

What the two felt within that moment with one another was the center of life; the very core of all feeling and thought. There was coincidence and meaning in all that surrounded them, both a terrifying complexity and simplicity, both agony and delight. Nothing went unnoticed.

Shosanna's mouth against Fredrick's was now not so much a kiss, as it was an indeterminate crush. The pulse of her only intensified; her heart within her chest like a caged bird. It would not recede, nor would it quiet down. His own heart racing, Fredrick just held her.

~


It was early afternoon when their train arrived in Munich.

Fredrick worked to pack their suitcase and tend to some last minute straightening of their room as Shosanna checked with the train car attendant to collect their identification papers. With his Luger tucked away, cap pulled down low, and luggage in hand, he was ready to leave as soon as she returned to their room. Their affairs in order, the two of them, as Ernst and Rachel Schwarzbaum, were prepared to face the next stage of their lives together.

It was, however, slow going.

The train station was bustling with both civilians and military personnel alike. No one, whether boarding or departing, was going anywhere without having their papers scrutinized under a watchful pair of eyes first. Shosanna, taking the lead, clutched Fredrick's hand in her own. Not one to let down her guard, she surveyed the crowds from the train car windows as best she could. Noting the drab green and tan uniforms mixed in with the rest of the average citizens, she was able to determine that Munich, just as Edwige had clued them earlier at the inn, was occupied by American forces. It was also detectable that there were some English among them; the Allied forces were utilizing as many of their men as possible.

The tension in his body was now evident as Fredrick's grip on Shosanna's hand was becoming increasingly tighter and his palm was growing slick with sweat. Outwardly, he appeared calm, but inwardly, his nerves were fraying. It was of total importance that they get off that train, lest he entirely unravel. In order to do so, Fredrick had to keep his cool. In a show of solidarity and in an effort to placate him, Shosanna rubbed the pad of her thumb over the skin on the back of his hand in slow, lazy circles. Though the strength of his hand over hers did not lessen any, the action worked to bring them both a small measure of comfort.

When their turn finally came, the two were immediately accosted - though rather politely - by a young soldier the moment they stepped off the train. Standing tall and proud, the soldier gave them a salute and an introduction,

"Private James Mayhew, at your service."

Judging by his khaki attire and heavily accented, albeit fluent German, he was English. Red-haired and fair-skinned with a face full of freckles, it was hard for Shosanna to not notice how out of place James looked; he couldn't possibly have been any older than either she or Fredrick.

Wanting to make their ordeal as pleasant as he could, the soldier smiled widely as he looked over their papers. Shosanna and Fredrick, maintaining their composure, remained blank-faced. Reading their names, his bright expression sobered. His eyes meeting theirs, James gave them a meaningful look, followed by a solemn,

"I am sorry."

Fredrick gave Shosanna a glance, as certainly, the soldier's words carried more meaning and weight for her sake rather than his own. She was unflinching, retaining her stoicism. Turning back to the soldier, Fredrick accepted it with a simple nod of his head. It was perhaps more out of protocol than out of personal curiosity, but James persisted with more questions.

"What brings the two of you back to Munich?"

Fredrick stammered. As a German, speaking the language to a non-native speaker in his own country, the reason for his presence should've been obvious. The soldier was insistent, pressing on,

"Herr Schwarzbaum, you yourself are German. But your wife, Frau Schwarzbaum, was born in Paris, France, as indicated on her papers. As you both have stepped off of the train from Paris - and bearing in mind your heritage - I was wondering, what brings you back here to Munich?"

Fredrick was noticeably perplexed by such invasive questioning, and watching their exchange, Shosanna turned to him for clarification. Given the seriousness of their situation, it had all but nearly slipped from Fredrick's mind that she did not understand German.

"He wants to know why we've returned to Munich," Fredrick informed her.

James, keeping a steady eye on them both, took into account how Fredrick spoke to Shosanna in French. His careful observance of them both did not pass by without regard. But before he or Fredrick could say anything more, Shosanna cut in, speaking directly to the soldier; whether he could make sense of her words or not was no longer a matter for her. The emotion that colored her voice - which previously would've been to her peril - now served to save her and Fredrick.

"There was no place for my husband here during the war, and certainly not for myself, either. Oui, the same held true in France, but the odds there were better in our favor. But now, this is where he wants to be, and I am to be with him."

James, now flustered, took on an apologetic tone in her language,

"It is not my intent to put either of you at unease, it is just that… we cannot afford to not be too careful."

Shosanna was steadfast with her words. All that she had survived, all that she had felt had risen to the surface of her voice,

"I know how it is to be careful."

Chastened, the soldier handed the two their papers back. Not a word more passed between them.

~


Shosanna and Fredrick were silent for the duration of their trek through the train station. Upon entering the open city, she spoke quietly, her eyes directed ahead.

"Forgive me, but I've had my fill of uniforms."

Saying nothing, Fredrick reached for Shosanna's hand and took it into his own, their fingers intertwining.

~


With Fredrick taking the lead, he navigated the two of them through as much of Munich as they could cover by foot on their journey to Das Kino Haus. Along the way, he pointed out all the familiar sights to her. Though it was all foreign to Shosanna, she was nonetheless beguiled with Fredrick's seemingly infinite joy. She was certain that if he were able to, he'd spend the rest of the day showing her every corner of Munich; it was in the way his features lit up with recollection and the lilt in his voice as he spoke. In spite of it all, this was his city and he was coming home.

The bookshop Elsa had worked in still stood, prompting Fredrick to tell Shosanna of how his second oldest sister now lived in Barcelona with her lover, a painter.

"Elsa really fell in love with Spain. After she met Teresita, that was it. There was no way she was returning to Munich."

Shosanna found such particulars nearly jolting; she held no doubt that such a detail went unmentioned to Goebbels. Coupled with all she had come to know of Fredrick and his family so far, it seemed uncharacteristic for a German War Hero to come from such unconventional stock. The differences between the Fredrick depicted on screen and the Fredrick she knew still shouldn't have astounded her, but they did.

It was also by Fredrick's estimation that the elderly Frau Vogt most likely had passed on in the years he was away. His voice hushed at that; away. But Fredrick did not openly dwell upon it. Instead, he cleared his throat and turned his attention to a quaint little candy shop.

A smile spread across his face.

"My sister Annaleisa used to tease me as a child that if I didn't stop buying sweets from there, that'd I grow up to be fat and toothless."

Shosanna, finding much amusement in his story, laughed, and as she laughed, Fredrick's smile widened.

"Yet, she is the one who grew up with a love of baking. I'd have told her the same, but I couldn't. That'd have been too easy."

He then paused, his eyes looking ahead as his mind wandered to thoughts of his sister. Shosanna watched Fredrick; she knew that there was more he wanted to say.

"Annaleisa lives in Berlin, now. She's married to a poet named Max. They reckon themselves to be Socialists."

He turned his face to her, and giving a shrug, Fredrick's smile returned.

"I'm not the only one of us to have gone away from home."

Shosanna, now, too, smiled.

They had both grown quiet, but not uncomfortably so; for Fredrick, just to be back in Munich with Shosanna was more than enough.

More and more, from the cafe in Paris, to their time together at Le Rossignol and on the train, Fredrick was opening up to her and welcoming her into his life. He wanted Shosanna; well and truly wanted to be with her. That was never a question for Fredrick. Now, more than ever, she could feel that want. And, as the two continued through the streets of Munich, hand in hand toward their destination, Shosanna knew that she wanted the same.

~


There it stood, Das Kino Haus. And there, before it, were Shosanna and Fredrick. As they neared it, he quickened his pace, dragging her along behind him. Seeing the theater which he spoke of so fondly at long last, she now understood its importance. Unlike the sleek modernity once held by Le Gamaar, Das Kino Haus wore its history proudly and openly in its stone and mortar construction. Astonishingly breath-taking, it was intensely beautiful and other-worldly in a way. But whereas Shosanna completely splendored in its grandiosity, Fredrick, she could see, found within its structure a comfort, a safety. For him, much like Le Gamaar was for her, Das Kino Haus was his shelter, his escape from the world; this was where he belonged.

Shosanna looked on as Fredrick's eyes drifted to the marquee. As he read over it, his brow furrowed.

"It says the theater is temporarily closed."

Mouth pursed, Fredrick looked away from her. For as alive as he was, his family was still yet unaware. In their minds, Fredrick Zoller was dead. He roughly swallowed and managed to speak, though it was more of an aloud thought than it was a direct statement. There was a distance in his voice.

"I had forgotten."

Fredrick took a moment more of silence. However discomforted he had felt, it seemed to have passed as he then raised his face; surreptitiously, he looked about them, taking mental stock of their surroundings. Shosanna waited, watching as he mentally processed all he had taken in. Fredrick said nothing, but she could tell he was plotting something.

Her hand still in his, he led Shosanna away from Das Kino Haus, ducking into an alleyway. Silent though thoroughly startled, she complied. Easily, she matched his purposeful, brisk pace as the two cut a path back behind the storefronts leading to the back entrance of the theater.

Shosanna watched him with a cool expectancy. Whatever trick he had up his sleeve, now, she surmised, was the time to deliver. No one, however, was more aware of this than Fredrick. One thing Shosanna had come to learn quickly about him was that he was far more clever than he let on; that side of him was, like so much else about him, something that only she was privy to.

He ran his fingertips over the wall of the theater, until coming upon a wedge of loose stone. With precision, Fredrick plucked it from its place, revealing a copper key. He reached for it, taking it in hand as he put the stone back. He smiled, pleased with his find.

"It was Elsa's," Fredrick elaborated as he went to work unlocking the backdoor, "As she spent less and less time here and more and more in the bookshop, Gerda kept the key hidden here."

The door, large and dense, now budged and with a bit of force, he pulled it open, allowing for Shosanna to enter first.

"Gerda is awfully forgetful of things if they aren't boys or clothes or whatever is currently catching her fancy, you see," He went on, following closely behind her, "And, it seems, that hasn't changed."

It was perhaps out of habit from working in a own theater for the previous four years, but Shosanna was able to hunt out the light switch to the right of her, and illuminate the back room with soft, yellow lighting. Fredrick closed and locked the door before joining her at her side as she looked around her. The room was used for storage: rolled up posters and plush, unused furniture, marquee signs, letters and other decorations; all were organized and covered in a fine layer of dust, all awaiting the moment to fulfill their purpose.

Shosanna moved through it all with careful strides, but Fredrick flitted about, his eyes and hands on anything and everything that piqued his interest. As he became occupied with a Greta Garbo poster, Shosanna glimpsed, in the furthest corner of the room, a bit of a marquee billboard. Thoroughly intrigued, she found herself drawn to it. Obscured by rolled up posters and other memorabilia, Shosanna could make out part of an olive green uniform as she approached it.

She knelt in front of it and moving aside the posters and other obstructions, she brought herself face-to-face with the stoic visage of Fredrick Zoller. Taken aback, she scrambled to her feet, and froze in place where she stood. Hearing her, Fredrick looked up from the distraction of Garbo to find Shosanna standing before himself, smartly dressed in his uniform and looking out toward the horizon of a new world once promised by a tyrannical regime.

It was both at once surreal and disarming. There was silence in the room as Fredrick contemplated just what he was seeing.

Shosanna blinked at the sight of it, astonished. She wondered about Fredrick, as to how he must've felt, having returned to Munich and his family's theater only to be confronted by the image of himself as he was portrayed in Goebbels' spectacle. She looked to him; his expression was one of complete concentration, his brows stitched together and his mouth set in a thin line.

Fredrick turned his head to face her, their eyes meeting. Body tensing, Shosanna anticipated his reaction.

He gave a slow, crooked smile.

"I told you it was an eyesore."

Though she supposed she expected something different, something more from him, it was definite that after having come this far, Fredrick was not to be deterred. And as he held the door leading out to the lobby open for her, neither was she.

~


"My father had it built for my mum. He oversaw every detail."

Shosanna stood in amazement. Brightly lit and composed of polished marble floors with smooth stone pillars and walls, Das Kino Haus resembled more of a cathedral than a theater; it was both decadent and reverential. On the walls hung framed posters for all manner of film, from Auf Wiedersehen Doesn't Mean Goodbye starring Bridget von Hammersmark, F.W. Murnau's Faust, to Disney's Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

As she wandered the expanse of the lobby, taking it all in, Fredrick stood by and watched her. He watched her with wonder, with love; he recalled how he had first seen her in the lobby of Le Gamaar and all those following moments after, of how he fell under the total compliance of his heart's most desperate desires. It was when he had taken his first steps that diverted far from the pathway that had been determined for him. It was when he had loved, and he loved so deeply. It was because of Shosanna that he was able to find comfort in a foreign country; she brought him solace, she brought him home.

If only either had known then what would become of them now.

Fredrick looked on as Shosanna reached out to run her hand along a pillar, as she stood admiring a poster for The Golem with her hands clasped behind her back, and as her eyes, scanning every detail, would settle back onto him. His arms crossed over his chest, Fredrick stood with his head cocked to the side. His forelocks had fallen into his face as he had since removed the cap, allowing for Shosanna to better see his eyes, which were full of affection and humor. His mouth was set in a slight, lop-sided grin.

Neither spoke; rather, words were unnecessary as the two faced one another, eyes locked.

Shosanna went to him, the click of the soles of her shoes upon the floor echoing throughout the theater. As she closed the space between them, Fredrick raised his hand up to cup the side of her face; her cheek curved as she smiled, fitting so well against his palm. Then, leaning into her, Fredrick bowed his head and brought his mouth down to hers, kissing her. The contact was light, soft, and brief. He trailed his fingertips over her cheekbone and further down, to her jawline; just as Shosanna closed her eyes, just as she allowed herself to ease into his touch, he stopped, pulling back from her.

Grinning widely, Fredrick turned away, silently indicating for her to follow. Playfully rolling her eyes in response, she went along with him.

She always would.

~


Shosanna had first thought that Fredrick was to lead her up the grandiose staircase to the projection booth. Instead, he brought her to a pair of double-doors at the other side of the lobby, which led them into the theater auditorium.

It was gorgeous. Large and spacious, with a greater capacity than Le Gamaar, it was more than she could have ever expected. The seating was luxurious, complete with a magnificent balcony. However, it was the film screen that captured Shosanna's attention.

Positioned above a small stage and veiled in red velvet, it was a spectacle unto itself. Imposingly enormous, its width spanned nearly that of the entire wall, and centered directly above it hung the comedy-drama mask.

"My mum lived for the stage."

Fredrick's voice was faraway, wistful. As softly as he spoke, his words still carried through, filling the auditorium. Shosanna turned to look over her shoulder at him. He stood by the doorway, watching her.

"After meeting my father and settling down, she found less and less time for it," Fredrick expounded, "And by then, she compensated for that by visiting a little movie house. Most of the other actors she knew were starting to panic; they feared the loss of their profession, their art form."

He shook his head bemusedly at the thought.

"But not my mum. She embraced film. She loved it, she loved the escape it provided."

With a small smile, Fredrick continued.

"They then moved to Munich. She hated leaving that little theater behind. My father wanted to do this for her."

Shosanna raised her face back to the screen, now gazing upon it with a new awe. These were things - important things - she could tell, that he did not share with anyone else outside of his family. Fredrick went briefly silent before proceeding on a melancholic note,

"It became even more important to us that we keep Das Kino Haus going after she passed away. We all grew up here; as soon as we were able to, we all learned how to run the projector along with every other little detail. This place is a part of us, as it was a part of her."

There was a resonance there in his words; of sadness, of loss. But, there was something more to it: an encompassing love.

Das Kino Haus was a monument to love, for love. For Shosanna, it brought to mind Le Gamaar, Ada Mimieux and Marcel; of how Fredrick's parents, like she and him, had taken a risk their hearts had urged upon them. That, for all the German War Hero and the Jewish Girl had been through in order to make it this far, they were not alone. That encompassing love was something they had all shared, and if there was anything that had truly set Shosanna and Fredrick apart, it was their willfulness to take that love beyond set boundaries and sensible limits; their love, which had before seemed so impossible, was now a reality - their reality.

Their love - their reality - was endless.

With her eyes transfixed by the film screen, Shosanna could feel the rise of emotion within her as it manifested itself as a hitched breath within her throat, threatening to spill from her, be it in tears or elation. But just as she was certain she was to be overpowered by all that she felt, Shosanna stilled; the lights in the auditorium dimmed and the red velvet parted to reveal, on screen, Harold Lloyd as the Boy, making the precarious climb up the storefront in Safety Last. Dazed, she spun around on her heel, to find that Fredrick was not there. But Shosanna was not entirely alone, as she craned her neck to see him at the window of the projection booth, smiling down at her.

~


The projection booth of Das Kino Haus was roomier than the one Shosanna worked in at Le Gamaar. Though indeed, much like her own, it was homey: there were neatly stacked tins of film and film magazines on the floor, posters and other little notes tacked up on the walls, and in the far left corner was a rather comfortable-looking pile of pillows for the projectionist who had tired of a night's particular showing.

She and Fredrick, in all of their training, remained by the projector, standing side-by-side. Her eyes focused on screen as the Boy was now dangling from the department store building clock-face. Fredrick's interest was not so much on Harold Lloyd's antics as it was on her; watching as she watched the film. Even in the darkness, Shosanna could not be obscured.

"The film was left in the projector," Fredrick quietly explained, “My mum loved Harold Lloyd, as does Helga."

Shosanna turned to him; his eyes were averted to the floor. There was no need for him to say anything further, as it was apparent that though Helga had closed the theater, she was spending time there to cope with her grief over the perceived loss of her brother. To no one specifically, Fredrick then nodded and looked away into the soft, formless dark of the projection booth. Without forethought, Shosanna stepped forward, removing all distance between them and reached out to him, laying her hand upon his cheek. As she touched Fredrick, he touched her, covering her hand with his own.

She watched Fredrick as he watched her; the play of light and shadows upon his features and the ardor she found there. There was an intensity and a fearlessness in his gaze, an unconditional earnestness which would have unnerved her, if not for the fact that the energy of their connection was so overpowering.

It was then that she had thought of the two of them in the projection booth that night and how, in the pitch blackness, he had sought her out in anguish. It was the unbearable frustration, loneliness, and incompleteness between them. The parallels between that night and that moment were not lost on Shosanna, and as Fredrick's eyes searched hers, she knew that he was aware of it, too; that all the two had been able to give of themselves to the other now, neither had been able to give then.

Though there was a warmth and familiarity found between them, all else was far too strange, far too unexpected. There was still more yet that they had to overcome; to share and to feel with each other. But here, now, the two had come far enough with one another - far enough to know just where they stood and what they wanted.

Fredrick removed his hand from hers and using the force of his body, he brought them both to the wall of the projection booth beside the room's entrance, pinning Shosanna against it. His strength was intimidating to her on some levels, but oddly alluring on others. With his eyes looking to her with such a ferociousness and his mouth poised above hers, Shosanna looked up at Fredrick, unable to collect her thoughts. Without pause, he inclined his head to hers, his lips closing over her own with an urgency and a hunger. Shosanna closed her eyes, relaxing into him; if not for his body against hers, she was certain she would sink beneath him. Taking her hand, she brought it lightly to his chest, feeling the hammering of his heart with her fingertips. As if to test Fredrick, she pressed her palm to him, feeling his solidity.

A sound catching in his throat, Fredrick broke the kiss. Pulling back from her, he left Shosanna wide-eyed and tremulous, her lips wet. Reaching up, he caught her face between his palms with surprising gentleness. Fredrick watched her with fascination, his mouth forming into a faint smile and his eyes welling up with an unnameable emotion. His voice was hushed in reverence,

"Du bist zu schön."

Within his effortless declaration, Shosanna found a poignancy. All that Fredrick wanted had always been so straightforward, so resolute: Shosanna. He wanted her. Shosanna knew that he always would; Fredrick would never tire of demonstrating his want and need of her. With Shosanna, came the promise of stability, of normalcy. Fredrick had been, she supposed, naive in his desire for her; contented with the simple notion that if the two of them were able to be together, then it would all fall in line. But he learned - and he learned quickly - just how complicated the fulfillment of that desire could be.

All that there was between Fredrick and Shosanna culminated that night in the projection booth; the fire, the war's end, their death and rebirth. It was the traumas of their pasts and the tenuous precariousness of their future. It was their link; all that they had and all that they were. Natural. Inevitable. Never had that felt more true than now, here in Munich, within the projection booth of his family's theater at this point in their lives when the two needed walls more than ever before.

There was more, perhaps, that he wanted to tell her, but the words were lost in the press of his mouth to hers as he slid his tongue deeply inside. There was no cautiousness now as Fredrick moved his hands down from her face and to her body as a means to anchor himself to her as the fierceness of their union increased. For all of the uncertainty and doubt the two faced, there was no questioning what was held between them. In this moment, Fredrick was giving and taking all he could of Shosanna and she was reciprocating, surrendering; responding to his every touch, his every breath.

She felt as his strong fingers skimmed lightly down the front of her dress, seeking the shape of her small, rounded breasts. He cradled the weight of them in his palms, giving a soft squeeze. He then ran his thumbs over her nipples, bringing them to hardened points, eliciting a shiver from her and a rough sound of approval from him. Her receptiveness only encouraged him more. Fredrick was unrelenting as he continued, trailing heat over Shosanna's body as his hands glided along the inward curves of her waist and further down, kneading over the contours of her hips.

As he roamed his hands over the shape and plane of her body, Fredrick groaned and instinctually, he pushed his hips up against her. Shosanna felt his hands slide heavily behind her, up and over her back and down again, settling on her ass. He then used the intimate grip to urge her against his thighs. She could feel the power and readiness of his body; it was uncontrollable and it was consuming them. Shosanna trembled against him, causing Fredrick to break the kiss and mutter a swear in German against her mouth. He didn't release her; instead, he moved a hand to rest at the small of her back and brought the other up to the side of her face.

There was a satisfaction held within his eyes; a flicker of something that made Shosanna draw in a breath. There was no apprehension, only an unexpected anticipation. Fredrick watched her a moment longer, as if debating his next move. A ghost of a smile played upon his lips as delicately, he stroked his hand over her cheek, brushing the pad of his thumb over her scar. Her eyes fluttering shut, Shosanna released her breath in a ragged exhale, her breasts moving against his chest. Fredrick's voice was a whisper - more words she couldn't comprehend - as he then lowered his head to her neck. Her thoughts were now chaotic, feeling as his mouth, warm and demanding, journeyed over the arc of her throat. Shosanna could feel the pulse of him, of his body; the sheer steadiness of it. Her breathing having grown rough now, she gave a muted cry.

Fredrick's mouth now hovered just above Shosanna's parted lips. Eyes opening, she looked up at him. There was something challenging in his stare; something both at once formidable and thoughtful. He tightened his hold around her, pushing hard against her. Shosanna moaned as she felt the evidence of his arousal, knowing that Fredrick wanted her to be conscious of it. He was harder, harder than he had been a moment before. She quivered beneath him, her body arching into his. Fredrick's hand moved from the side of her face to soothe the back of her neck as he held Shosanna with gentle firmness against his mouth, the slick of his tongue once more sliding over hers; the kiss was no less enthralling or forceful than it had been the first time.

It was within his demonstration of his supreme need for her that Fredrick overwhelmed and claimed her as if by right, the solid warmth of him enveloping her. Though it was certainly not the first time he had held her, it was now something more; his body cloaking hers, his heart against her own. The sensation was captivating. Shosanna could feel it pulsing through her now, and Fredrick undoubtedly sensed it, as he gave a low moan.

The film had ended moments ago, as the two became engulfed with each other. Everything was quiet save for the murmur of their straining bodies; heavy and thick, it weighed down upon them. Both knew that here, in the dark confines of the projection booth, the two could give of one another all that they could not that night. It would've been so simple, to do away with the thin barriers that impeded them and be with one another, entrenched with shadow; the world around them blotted out.

But their endeavor, much like that night, was interrupted. Their orchestra of racing heartbeats and gasping breaths was cut through by the intrusive sound of the presence of another in the theater lobby. Immediately, Fredrick went rigid, opening a space between he and Shosanna. Though he released her, he still stood by, shielding her. All his passions were now set aside as Fredrick had his defenses up. Body tightening, his brows knitted together and he frowned as he listened; in the dim lighting cast by the projector, his expression appeared harsher than it was.

There were footsteps, followed by a muffled voice calling out in German.

Fredrick's jaw clenched. Shosanna could sense his hesitance; he wanted to come bounding out of the booth, but he restrained himself. Running a hand through his hair, Fredrick took in a jagged breath. There was more indistinct German from the lobby, followed by a stretch of silence. Looking to the doorway, he gave an infinitesimal nod of his head; Shosanna could see the wheels turning in his mind. She straightened herself from against the wall, and without giving so much as a glance, Fredrick raised a hand, wordlessly instructing her to stay where she stood. Bracing himself, he took hold of the door's handle, yanking it open and stepping out into the hallway.

Shosanna could hear more movement, then a woman's voice, speaking in German. Holding her breath, she went still, waiting for Fredrick's response. His voice was barely above a whisper,

"Helga."

Hurriedly, Shosanna emerged from the booth to find Fredrick frozen stock-still as he directly faced the woman - Helga, his sister - standing at the bottom of the staircase, eyes fixed on his. She couldn't help but be taken aback by the older woman. Tall and lean, Helga possessed cream colored skin, warm eyes, and soft, youthful features much like Fredrick himself had; as she smiled up at him, it was also evident that quirky mouths and uneven grins were a distinctly Zoller trait. Though the brother and sister clearly had their similarities, Helga's complete femininity and loveliness was more than noticeable, even as she stood before them, clad in a pair of dingy work coveralls and thick-soled boots with her tawny hair piled up and pinned back. She was all at once delicate and resilient; it seemed that such contradictions ran in the family.

A knapsack, which had been slung over Helga's shoulder, now fell to the floor as she hardly made any effort to mind it as her body had gone slack. Eyes wide and face beaming, she looked upon him with dumbstruck awe; it was as if that through her tears, prayers, and whispered pleas to the universe, her brother, the war hero, had been resurrected from the dead. Using the last threads of her resolve, she bounded up the stairs towards him, only for her knees to buckle and give out from under her half-way up.

Trembling, Fredrick propelled himself toward her, meeting her where she had stumbled. There, the two embraced in a collapsed heap in a flagrant display of unbridled emotion. Words slurred as their laughter and tears intermingled, as their jubilation and sorrow bled into each other. Such a sight it was, that if anyone were to intrude upon them, the two would appear to be outright hysterical. Shosanna remained where she stood, watching years of separation and anguish unfurl into reconciliation and exhilaration.

Wiping away tears from her eyes with the backs of her hands, Helga spoke to Fredrick in their shared language. She reached out to him, placing her hand beneath his chin, tipping his head back and turning it from side to side as she looked him over. She then spoke more, making a comment which made him laugh. It was a rich, vibrant sound that filled the lobby, amplifying its magnitude; it was a sound, Shosanna realized, she had not heard enough of. The siblings carried on with their exaltation, and though Shosanna could not make entire sense of their words, she shared in their splendor nonetheless. The reunion was, for her, both touching and bittersweet as she called to mind the loss of her family. No matter how far and how long she journeyed, Shosanna could not hope to see them again; not as how Fredrick was able to now hold his sister. Her heart lurched in her chest.

It was as if she had sensed this, for it was then that Helga raised her eyes from behind Fredrick's shoulder to finally take notice of the young woman. Obviously shamed at not having acknowledged her initially, a blush rose to Helga's face. Steadily, she brought herself to her feet, and out of nerviness, she brushed back a loose tendril of hair behind her ear. Helga then smiled, wide and genuine at her. Shosanna stepped forward, though she was uncertain of what do or to say; after all she had learned of Fredrick's oldest sister and his family's theater, she almost felt like an outsider on holy ground. It was ridiculous of her, Shosanna knew, but she had developed an admiration for the woman, even if they had not met until now. Fredrick straightened, and turned to face Shosanna, his features marked with a mix of adoration and excitement.

She now held their full attention.

There was a recognition in Helga's eyes and a familiarity in her voice,

"Emmanuelle Mimieux?"

It was quite plain that her reputation preceded her, even in Munich. Shosanna swallowed, wanting to speak. But Fredrick, in all his sincerity, spoke for her,

"She was."

Helga looked to Fredrick, then back to Shosanna. Her brows meeting, she did not wholly follow. Shosanna now brought herself to the head of the stairs, and boldly, she introduced herself.

"I am Shosanna Dreyfus."

A straightforward pronouncement, it was all she needed to say and all Helga needed to know. She gave a slow nod of her head as steadfastly, she climbed up the rest of the stairs that encompassed the expanse between her and the younger woman. Reaching the top, neither said a word as Helga crushed Shosanna to her. Just as easily as she welcomed her into her arms, Shosanna, too, circled her arms around Helga, accepting the gesture and all that came with it.


 
 
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[identity profile] earthtobells.livejournal.com on August 14th, 2011 11:25 pm (UTC)
Oh joyyyy. I don't know why I dislike Penelope Cruz so much, I tried getting over it but idk (probably because one of my teachers I detested so much told me I looked like her which I do NOT and maybe because I'm jealous she got to kiss Johnny Depp .)
I sort of liked him in Adventureland, and I never thought the Social Network would be the kind of movie that would get nominated for an Oscar but I was glad he got nominated, too.

I just hope she's not going commando or anything like that *shudder*

LOL Marcel is a whole different topic for me to make fun of, but I'm not going to start on that.
I'm not bashing Landa or Hellstrom or anyone either; God knows how much I enjoyed watching them (but that is of course entirely the actors' doing). I just think the same way you do, that dragging Shosanna into it just infuriates me. I don't get the point of reading fanfiction when it's so out of character. It's basically making up your own character who happens to have the same name, then. If pairing up a girl with the murderer of her family sounds realistic to them, I really want to know how their mind works.
And I love to re-hear it, because I seem to run out of reasons to throw in their face when I'm arguing about this.
Hahaha, really? I guess this fandom has its own version of ~twihards as well.

I think it's more interesting this way too. I'm curious, what made you decide to make it post-war?

I Hope I Don't Fall In Love With You? That's Shosanna thinking right there, lol.

I actually had to change my wallpaper to something that said DON'T. FUCKING. PROCRASTINATE and put post-it notes all around me because that's how distracted I get when I'm doing something like taking summer classes, hahaha.

There will probably be a cake filled with rainbows and smiles and everyone will eat and be happy! Yes, I did, I just committed the crime of quoting Mean Girls.
http://suspiriorum.livejournal.com/: [act: BW] See these eyes so red[identity profile] suspiriorum.livejournal.com on August 15th, 2011 01:37 am (UTC)
I've worked my way up to ambivalence with her. I used to get annoyed at the sight of her, but now I can must up a simple,"meh."
It's definitely the kind of film that was made watchable by the performances (Black Swan was the same way, I think); if any of the casting of the two leads had gone wrong, the whole thing wouldn't have worked.

She tries to avoid it, but sometimes he purposely hides her underwear. Those are days they stay home.

Oh, definitely. There's an anon fandom community where that was addressed, actually, in a thread about things you want to tell your fandom. As they put it, "A character's anger over their family being murdered does not translate to wanting to have sex with the man who did it." They then added that Nazis are only hot when they're on fire.
I just cannot wrap my mind around it. I just can't. I try and it ends in frustration, and that's just setting aside the fact that she's Jewish and focusing on the whole murdered-her-family angle.
In the most recent LJ S/F debacle, I posted my feelings and got a response that still irks me: http://pics.livejournal.com/suspiriorum/pic/001dcwfe
Also, apparently, according to one comment, Landa/Shosanna makes sense in the antagonist/protagonist way, but they were shocked to find out that Shosanna/Fredrick was the main pairing in the fandom.
The girl who flipped out at me is the big H/S shipper here and on tumblr. It may still be in the recesses of my gmail, but she even made a graphic to demonstrate how much what I said didn't bother her (though it clearly did. a lot). She has this strange hatred of Dan because of the whole delightful "discovered each other" thing and because of QT's quotes on S/F and their audition (she seems convinced that Mel and August are in love with each other, too). She also has this elaborate back-story on how Shosanna and Hellstrom were ~secret lovers before the war or something, never minding the fact that it's ooc and goes against canon. I think once you're at that point, much like deciding to put Indiana Jones on Mars, you're better off writing your own story with your own characters instead of contorting them into pretzels to fit your fantasies.

What I find most interesting to see in fiction with WWII (which isn't depicted enough) are how the average citizen survived and post-war stories. I suppose it's an extension of the influence of KFAD, but as a co-worker succinctly put it, "The real story starts after the end credits."
In my research, I was amazed and appalled at the methods the Resistance used to fight back, such as making female members "befriend" German soldiers in order to convince them to desert. Then, on Liberation Day, women who were seen in the company of Germans (even in the same proximity as one) were publicly punished and humiliated. Vigilante justice against anyone considered a collaborator was carried out up through as late as 1946. Then there was the treatment of Germany after the war.
When it took place during the war, it focused on Aviva as a leader of a group of misfits who were helped in part by Edwige Molyneux (in this incarnation, Genevieve was her daughter, rather than her sister), which tied into the Gestapo Major who had his own connection to Edwige. Manfried was a soldier Aviva only briefly met in the opening, until later, when they meet again. He then became a part of her group. It was all very involved and too much going on. The more and more I plotted it out, the more the focus turned from A/M to other plotlines. On top of that, there was no way for it to realistically end without being a total downer.
I panicked a bit when I decided to make such drastic changes, but it was for the best. With a smaller group of characters, I can focus on Aviva and Manfried to better tell their story, as well as do the others justice. It also gave me the chance to show how the war has impacted them all, and to an extent, how hard it is to let go and return to their lives as they were before (which, for those such as Aviva and Manfried, is nearly impossible).

It totally is! Their whole relationship is like a Tom Waits song.

Omg, I can totally relate to that. Some days are better than others when it comes to being able to focus.

Aw, I don't mind. It's appropriately fitting!
[identity profile] earthtobells.livejournal.com on August 15th, 2011 10:59 am (UTC)
Oh, definitely. Let's say if Megan Fox was the lead in Black Swan do you think I'd actually watch it? LOL I don't think so.

Cheeky little German *shakes head*

With Fred being the exception, of course. That boy can be soaked wet and still be too hot.
And oh, so now we're shipping them in a ~forget the Nazi thing and her revenge just get married already but also in a "missing the point" way? Okay, I'm fine with that, I'd rather call myself that than shipping them in a "forget the part where your lover is a quite older man who just happened to be the one that massacred your family and is super proud of it" way.
You know, I noticed that for EVERY single fandom I seemed to be a part of I always ended up shipping the doomed non-canon couple, and I thought to myself "Oh come on, not again" when I watched IB so you can guess how happy I was when I found out that it was actually canon, and I figured I'd find LOTS of people who would agree with me since it was canon for once! But oh no, apparently we were blind the whole time.
Does she know August is happily married to Julia and has a child? Because seriously, things change at that point...I mean, shipping a girl with a married man is just...not healthy. Quite disrespecting to the actors, if you ask me.
I think once you're at that point, much like deciding to put Indiana Jones on Mars, you're better off writing your own story with your own characters instead of contorting them into pretzels to fit your fantasies. BRB dying of laughter at this. They way you put it is just so great, and absolutely true!

I think it's a good thing you decided to reduce the number of characters too, this way it won't be too confusing because you're right, every character would have its own story to tell but what's important is the story of Aviva and Manfried in the end. I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to you finishing it! (:

You must use a Tom Waits song in the soundtrack if you ever make it into a movie! Then I could die happy and go to heaven.






http://suspiriorum.livejournal.com/: [film: DKT/IB] HARUMPH[identity profile] suspiriorum.livejournal.com on August 15th, 2011 05:53 pm (UTC)
Then it would be seen as the fancy B-movie that it is (I did enjoy it, but yeah, that plot was done before. In Italy. In the '70s).

That's what she tells him. Then he tells her she's so French.

That's giving me ideas for KFAD. I'll have to remember to get Fred soaking wet. I'm wondering where these, "lol let's forget he's a German and she's Jewish" S/F fans are that they've encountered, because I haven't found any. That's part of the appeal to myself and others in general is the fact that they're both so similar, yet on opposite sides. And again, the two of them being together is not impossible, but it would take effort from them both to overcome their pasts in order to have a future. That's why they're QT's Romeo and Juliet; a love story against all odds. Really, that's 90% of love stories we see in fiction.
I love the added, "Here's a link to a fic you might like but lol it's the only S/F fic I'll ever read and really I hate them." It was so damned passive-aggressive that I don't know why she even bothered replying to me.
I noticed a lot of Shosanna's fans have this image of her being a totla hard-ass who doesn't need anyone except for maybe Marcel when she really wasn't. I like that she's so human and that Fredrick brought that out of her, but apparently we're as blind as Dan was as Hans in Die kommenden Tage. Oh, and apparently her life was just fine hiding in a theater with only one other person to talk to for four years, even though QT and Mel have said otherwise. At least we have Quentin on our side and that arsenal of quotes, which never fails to upset their detractors. And that amuses me.
Maybe for my next fic, I can send Sho and Fred to Middle Earth.
Generally, I very much enjoy canon, so I love talking about it/exploring it. Sadly, most fan communities would prefer to go in totally different directions and then get pissy if one wants to stick to canon (the total outrage over a fan pointing out that Kirk canonically was involved with women and not Spock was hilarious).
I noticed she has this weird thing of shipping actors, no matter if they've worked together/are married or not and she treats them like we would with fictional characters. I find it bothersome, to say the least. And apparently, Dan can never hope to be a total sex god like August is.

I sometimes forget that it's my own story, and thus, I can do just about anything I want within reason (and at times, outside of it). So I've learned to not be afraid to make changes that are necessary for the story, or to at least try something out and see if it sticks. Thank you! I look forward to getting this all out and to be able to share it ♥

There are so many Tom Waits songs I want to use. I could probably use the majority of his discography, actually. It's all so fitting.
[identity profile] earthtobells.livejournal.com on August 16th, 2011 11:03 pm (UTC)
Yeah, definitely. Frankly I expected it to be better but oh well. I love Mila (and of course Natalie) so I didn't complain.

She has many more nicknames for him that we don't even know about.

Yay for wet Fred, lol! and Exactly, it is not impossible! I mean she has every right to be prejudice and against it at first, I totally get that, everyone would, but you can not just say that she detests him all along because she doesn't, or I'm just delusional to see something deep inside her that makes her regret everything. I seriously think Fredrick would be ready to overcome anything if she gave him a chance, so it was more kind of up to her.
LOL I guess it's a good thing she actually tried reading a fic instead of just trolling about how she hates it just because her own ship didn't get it going on, lol.
I KNOW. I guess it's kind of what you expect from Tarantino, because his female characters are always like that. But really, even Quentin said that she wasn't just another The Bride, didn't he? She's really vulnerable once you pay attention. And really, as long as we have Quentin on our side, everyone else can go shove it (sorry I'm being so vulgar, lol).
Oh, that would be fun! Let them be on a mission to throw Landa's huge pipe into the fires of Mount Doom or something, so they can have lots of angsty sex when they try and take the pipe from each other. Oh and create a gollum named Marcel that follows them around and you're good to go.
Lol, it's the same case with people who are hardcore shippers of Merlin and King Arthur and just can't accept the fact that he's canonically in love and married to Guinevere. I'm not really fond of slash fiction, though. I'm not against those who like it or anything, I just don't prefer to indulge myself in it.
Oh god, they seem to do that a lot in tumblr! One of my really good friends tends to do that too. They call them "crack ships" i think? A while ago I tried getting her into the IB fandom and she ended up using Melanie and Daniel to create those weird pairings with some actors that have no connection to them whatsoever and posted them on tumblr and showed me. I was pretty weirded out.
And oh, of course, what were we thinking? August is a beast. Danny boy is nothing compared to him! (I really don't want to come off as being mean to August or anything, I do love him too).

The good thing is, you can always change it back the way it was if you don't like it! Nothing is stopping you, so be brave and do whatever you want :)

It is! I seem to tie the lyrics to Fred/Sho everytime I listen to his songs nowadays. Oh, that man's music can't be compared to anything.
http://suspiriorum.livejournal.com/: [film: IB; OTP] Everything goes to hell[identity profile] suspiriorum.livejournal.com on August 17th, 2011 12:05 am (UTC)
Their performances really sold me on the film. I started ugly crying in the theater as soon as the end credits started. My dad had to comfort me after that.

I'm now picturing her giving a Blade Runner type of speech. "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe..."

Yes! You're absolutely not delusional, as I see it, Quentin sees it, and others, do, too. As Quentin and Kim Morgan discussed in that interview on her blog, Shosanna didn't want to shoot him and she didn't want to kill him. She has all of this pain and rage and grief and it's Fredrick who brings out her humanity. It's amazing, really, how much he gives her without him truly knowing it and her not realizing (and not wanting to accept it) until the end. I probably mentioned it before, but there was a perfect youtube comment for a video of Un Amico (it was the music with a still photograph of Shosanna) that summed up that moment the music starts to play when watching him on screen breaks her heart (I will forever love that line in the script): It was the moment that Shosanna realized her feelings for Fredrick, and it was a moment that would live on forever.
Quentin did indeed say that Shosanna is not the Bride; she is human and a survivor. Of course, even the Bride still loved Bill. With all her own rage and grief, she still loved him and he still loved her. If it were any other writer/director, I'm sure it would've been a black and white situation (just like IB would've been). Though even when presented with flawed, human characters, people still ignore those shades of gray.
Pretty much, yeah, everyone else can shove it.
Omg that'd be perfect! I do have an idea for another multi-part Sho/Fred fic after KFAD that I'm excited about (I seem to juggle various ideas mentally at once to keep my enthusiasm going).
I get you. I can't warp canon like that, especially since I myself am queer. It's just a downer to watch something, no matter how much you warp something in fan fiction, to see that no, there is no canon support. I feel it's better to support actual canon gay characters and media instead. Watchmen fandom was good to me for that because Adrian Veidt/Ozymandias is canonically gay (and he hangs out with Fred).
I do admit to having a crack pairing, I suppose, of Zoe Saldana/Dan/Mel/August just because I think she and Dan should be in something where they speak Spanish to each other. Then she can be in something with Melanie where they're awesome and do awesome things. After that, she can co-star in something with August that's angsty and filled with sex. I was playing around with a re-make of Blade Runner with August as Deckard and Zoe as Rachael (with Mel and Dan as Pris and Roy Batty), so that's where that comes from.
Omg. I hope your friend understands that it's Daniel and Melanie and no one else. I do have a tumblr follower who loves Dan/Mel and Sho/Fred, but she also wants to see Dan and Katie McGrath work together, so she has a lot of graphics of them.
Every woman on the planet in all of existence wants August and never Dan. Especially Melanie. There is at least the thought that yes, August would find all of this utterly ridiculous. He'd have a good laugh and then go about his business with his charming family that can fit in his lap.

I love that so, so much. Having that kind of personal, creative freedom is so wonderful. Dan had said that before, after making IB; more writers/directors need to be willing to be bolder (hearing him say that only encourages me more).

Yes! I should compile a Tom Waits-themed fanmix for Sho/Fred. It'd probably end up consisting of his entire discography, but it'd be worth it. There's gonig to be announcement on his site next week on the 23rd concerning new music, too.
[identity profile] earthtobells.livejournal.com on August 17th, 2011 12:52 am (UTC)
I knew Natalie would nail it, but it really made me respect Mila even more (seeing she wasn't just Meg from Family Guy after all).

I totally pictured that in my mind. She should have started her "revenge of the giant face" speech with that.

You haven't, actually. That is so heartbreakingly true. I always say it, but that scene is probably my favourite out of the entire movie (although with shame it was the first time I heard of Morricone, but the summer of that year my dad took me to my first Morricone concert after falling in love with Un Amico so I think I compensated for that).
That's why I love Quentin. Some other director probably would have focused on killing Nazis the entire time but Quentin is such a soft heart deep inside. I love him.
I've never actually seen Watchmen so I don't know anything about it, but I don't think I'd have anything against a canon gay couple if I liked the guys or at least one of them.
That makes sense, though. Okay, okay, I probably have actors I would like to work together but I never thought about it as a crackship. Maybe I shouldn't be so prejudice about it.
Oh gosh, that is probably who I'm talking about. She's a really good friend, probably the online friend I know the longest. I know she's on tumblr and she didn't quite like Fred/Sho the first time she saw IB but I made her join the dark side with showing her the goodies we have from Quentin and the attractiveness of Mel/Dan and of course she rewatched the movie and i fulfilled my mission, lol; but yeah, she did show me a few ships like Dan and Katie or Dan/Karen McGillan and Melanie/Bradley James. Why I found it kind of odd was because Katie McGrath/Bradley James was kind of like our OTP for a while (I love those two as well) and you know how once you have an OTP it's kind of weird for you to ship them with other people but anyway, like I said, I'll stop being prejudice about some of those (I will not start shipping Mel/August anytime soon, though).
Lol, true, he wouldn't even concern himself with these things because he'd be busy music and baby making with Julia.

That's a good motivation to hear from one of your favourite actors! I'd probably print that quote and hang it on my wall while I was working, haha.

You should! I wish I had video making skills so I could make one of those fancy fanvids pf Fred/Sho with a Tom Waits song people on youtube make.
I heard about that! My dad stalks his site for music newa (even though he won't admit it). He's a big fan, probably where I get it from.
http://suspiriorum.livejournal.com/: [act: DB] Reflect what you are[identity profile] suspiriorum.livejournal.com on August 17th, 2011 02:42 am (UTC)
I felt the same about Mila. She's doing quite a bit of comedic work, and she is good at it, but she really has potential to do well in dramas.

With her face painted up like Pris. I'm just going to crash all of my OTPs into each other.

It was reading that comment, back when I was working through everything that Sho/Fred made me feel, that I realized others felt that way, too. I was further pushed along by a commenter on imdb who refused to go with the general consensus of Fredrick being an evil Nazi rapist; he argued his stance in every post it came up and he provided the first of QT's Romeo and Juliet quotes (the one about how the projection booth scene is their consummation). It's my absolute favorite scene out of the film, too. It's the best in the entire film, I think.
Someone told me before that they wished Quentin's films had more emotional depth. I was taken aback, because his work is rife with depth! The projection booth scene, the Bride's discovery of her daughter/showdown with Bill, and Jack Brown's goodbye to Max Cherry are my favorite scenes of his because of how much they get to me emotionally; I've cried buckets over them.
Watchmen is one of my favorite novels, and the full film (the director's cut on dvd, it's about four hours long) is one of my favorites. Adrian Veidt is my favorite fictional character in existence; everything about him, including his sexuality, is completely polarizing to the fandom. He's every shade of gray on the palette. Okay, so canon got warped to make pairings with him work, but the general rule of thumb in the fandom is, "Everyone's Adriansexual." Based off of the film's opening credits alone, people ship Adrian/David Bowie.
It's okay to have some prejudice about it, because it can get very out of hand. I recall seeing a Matthew Goode/Melanie graphic and I got cranky. Adrian Viedt and Shosanna Dreyfus are better off killing Nazis than being paired with each other.
That certainly sounds like her! I do remember the Karen/Dan because it led to a friend and I on twitter plotting out a fake film wherein Karen and Dan are BFFs and she helps him land Melanie. Along the way, Karen falls in love with Andrew Garfield (Karen and Andrew are the fan favorites for Lily and James Potter).
It's totally weird to ship them with other people. Sometimes I think I can, but that just leads to Dan and Mel, for example, finding each other and being the Franco-German OTP that they are. Mel/August will never make sense. Ever. [livejournal.com profile] sendhimaway and I talked about that; she and I like how complementary pairings can be, and Mel and August look too much alike. They could siblings because they're both angular and full-lipped and sleepy-eyed. Throw in Paul Bettany and you have the third sibling.
Dan would find it flattering, I'm sure. August would laugh at him (and maybe suggest Dan do something and give Mel a call).

He also feels actors should really stretch themselves and take on everything from every genre, too, though he's done war films, I like to think that my screenplay and my story are dynamic enough for him. He's certainly not done a post-war romance yet (and there aren't many of those).

I should, as it'd be the ultimate combination of my major loves. One of my friends around here, [livejournal.com profile] ellista, who makes those fabulous manips of Dan/Mel made a Sho/Fred fanvid. She's busy with her new job, but she hopes to share it soon. I'm good with editing, but oh, goodness, I'm not at the level of fandom vidders. Do you have any good Sho/Fred fanvid recs?
I follow the twitter for Tom's site, so I saw it earlier at work today. Getting updates on Tom is always a nice highlight to my day, much like when David Lynch tweets about his woodworking.
[identity profile] earthtobells.livejournal.com on August 17th, 2011 02:15 pm (UTC)
I realized I liked her in every movie/show of hers for some reason, no matter how cheesy it was. I don't think it's the Slavic blood that flows in both of us or anything, lol.

She needs to do something about the hair, though. Backcomb the hell out of it and she's good to go.

I don't know, everyone I personally know that has seen the movie generally views Fredrick just as I do; maybe the only negative comment I've heard would be about how he kept "bothering" her when she wasn't interested; so I don't see what signs he supposedly gave could have been misinterpreted for all those people to think so badly of him.
Oh, his movies are considered to be not emotional (that's why my brother loves them) but I say bullshit to that.
Ha, I should give it a shot, then. Probably won't find the novel, but I can watch the movie.
Now that is acceptable, because there's Mel/Dan victory in the end, haha. Okay, I'll admit, I wouldn't mind Dan/Katie McGrath that much (because I absolutely adore that girl) but that's it. I won't compromise about Dan any more :P
Oh my god, they do! Can't believe I never paid attention to it, but the eyes especially! That would be a strikingly beautiful family, too. I wonder what their parents would look like, haha.
August the matchmaker. I like it.

I agree with him on that. It gets really boring when you see them in the same type of roles every single time. But he looks so foxy as a soldier so it certainly wouldn't hurt anyone if he played one again.

Oh, I'm a pro as far as Windows Movie Maker is concerned, but I never tried working with Sony Vegas or any of those fancy video editing programs. And sadly, I only have one I favorited; there are almost NO Fred/Sho videos and the ones that are already there are not quite with the music I'd pick, but here's a good one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nzglaes6no&feature=related
http://suspiriorum.livejournal.com/: [act: AA] Heavy is the head[identity profile] suspiriorum.livejournal.com on August 19th, 2011 09:23 pm (UTC)
My mom and I used to watch That '70s Show together when it originally aired, and Jackie was always one of her favorites. After the success of Black Swan, my mom was so happy for her.

That happens pretty regularly anyway, thanks to Dan and their activities. He's more than happy to do such things for her. As an aside, I always really wanted fic where Sho's film for the Germans consisted of her on top of Fred. I'm going to be the one to write it, aren't I?

Fortunately, those I know feel the same about him (including my parents, which I'm sure I've mentioned before?). Even when I talk with people who don't, they actually listen when I elaborate on the importance of the Shosanna/Fredrick dynamic to the film (people around me are used to my film ramblings at this point). Oh, how I love the whole, "She entirely uninterested in him!" spiel. Yes, yes, she was entirely uninterested in him, totally in love with Marcel and functioned just fine living her life as another woman and hiding out in a theater. I've been told before that I was "looking for meaning" in a Tarantino film when there was none to be found. You're right that he really has a heart; QT acts like an excitable fifteen year old with much of the direction and action, but there's something very delicate beneath that shiny surface. He's really able to trick all kinds of audiences into seeing his films because of that.
You should because I say so. Watchmen is one of those things I take entirely too seriously and personally, but I do very much recommend it. There was studio interference in the handling of some details (for instance, they didn't want any of the "good" characters to be shown smoking) and the ending was changed from the book, but it works nonetheless. It was basically a labor of love for everyone involved and it shows.
That's how it should always end. One of my friends almost wanted to write a fic where it looked to be Sho/Hellstrom, but what turned into Sho/Fred. We're all allowed a concession. And if it came down to it, I don't think Katie would mind stepping aside to allow for the true love forever of Mel/Dan.
Christopher Walken would be their father; which makes sense when you see Walken from the '70s and '80s (he said he doesn't like watching his films from those decades because he was "too much of a pretty boy"). More and more, August is revealing himself to be a Were-Walken.
August totally would. Dan is like the single friend all people married/in relationships know who totally needs to meet the right person.

Absolutely. He's played the broody and sensitive soldier, so I've made sure in my writing of Manfried that he stand out more from those parts. He does have the Fredrick influence, but with a more intimate look at the extent of his trauma.

I haven't used the fancier editing programs, either. I'm barely acquainted with the iMovie program on my laptop, which I should do something about. I like that one! There have been some I enjoyed, but I think the only one I favorited was one that used Three Days Grace. Not my kind of music, but I thought it worked. I also gleefully messaged the video maker with QT's quotes and such, which got her all excited. Then a commenter rained on our parade by saying that in this instance, Juliet hated Romeo and blah blah blah.
I like this: http://fv-poster.livejournal.com/51915.html The focus is on Shosanna, her loss, and Fredrick. My friend had it made for her for festivids.
[identity profile] earthtobells.livejournal.com on August 21st, 2011 08:12 pm (UTC)
I had to watch that because of my sister's huge crush on Ashton Kutcher but Jackie was always my favourite as well.

*sigh* guess you just have to take matters into your own hands, as usual, when it comes to these things. I'll give you everlasting moral support, if that means anything.

It seems that everyone around me watched the film just because they expected another usual gory Tarantino film that happened to be about World War II, and even after seeing it they haven't put much thought into it; not paying attention to the story's Fredrick and Shosanna aspect at all. My mom was the only exception to that, who thought their story was so tragic and absolutely loved Fred. But then again those other people were all males so I bet that has something to do with that. The opinion that he doesn't put a meaning behind his movies is so absurd it makes me laugh, because Quentin does nothing on accident. Well, at least not on this particular movie.
My best friend is a huge fan apparently, he happened to have the movie so I'll be watching it tomorrow night :)
Of course she wouldn't, after all she has a boyfriend has her own OTP place somewhere in my heart alongside Bradley James ;)
Oh gosh, August could totally pass as a Nick Chevotarevich if they ever decided to remake The Deer Hunter.
Is he still dating that girl he showed up to a premiere with? *sadface*
On a side note, Eli Roth happens to have landed in Italy as we speak and I'm trying to convince someone to drive 266 miles with me to go stalk meet him. And so far, nobody wants to.

I think he'd be up for it. Secretly he loves wearing a uniform. And he's not the only one who loves it.

I saw that one, too. The song is I Hate Everything About You or something like that? I'm not a fan of the band either, but it was nicely done. I always wanted to download one of those fancier stuff because I always have ideas and songs floating in my mind that nobody seemed to make and thought I should probably give it a try, but I don't know why I never did. Come to think of it, maybe I'll give it a shot and make a nice contribution to the S/F fandom since there aren't that many videos around? I'd certainly feel better about myself.
That's a nice one! Never heard of Elana Stone before, but I like that song.
http://suspiriorum.livejournal.com/: [act: UT] Like a Junior G-Man[identity profile] suspiriorum.livejournal.com on August 26th, 2011 09:24 pm (UTC)
Who'd have thought that it would be Jackie to have an enduring career out of that cast?

It'd be so utterly ridiculous, but I think I could do with stretching my limits and going into the ridiculous.

I wasn't certain of what to expect going into it. I LOVE Reservoir Dogs, but I'm not so crazy about Pulp Fiction (Mia's parts and the end are my favorites), so I was worried it'd be totally focused on the Basterds. Of course, I was proven wrong.
On a related tangent, I'm amazed at how fans can so easily ignore the importance Fredrick and Shosanna hold to each other. It just confounds me. Many are willing to prop up Marcel as this integral figure to her because it is shown, very fleetingly in the film, but they're not willing to look further than that. In general, so many people are willing to just see the face value of Qunetin's work. It's like watching the entire Kill Bill saga and miss the point of the finale between Beatrix and Bill.
The summer of 2009, I was recovering from gall bladder surgery, so there wasn't a lot I could do. I spent it watching Watchmen probably a little too much. Even in French. I need to rewatch it. It's been a while for me.
Ha! I think of you every time I see or Bradley. I also cringe at how weird the Merlin fandom gets, especially in regard to the women on the show.
I'm thinking Dan probably still is, but I'm just ignoring that. Until they get married, I see nothing as final. And even if they do, I hope he wouldn't shy away from Rain Dogs. I keep thinking of how Johnny Depp apparently was afraid of getting too close to Charlize when they were making The Astronaut's Wife because his relationship with Vanessa was still very new at that point.
(I somehow am able to remember lots of ancient Hollywood gossip)
I saw when he tweeted that! He's also been posting pictures. You should find a way to go harass just because. And convince him to let QT read KFAD (Eli has this thing where he won't give QT links to any adult-rated fanfic).

I'm pompous enough to think he is, too. Though the simple explanation of the storyline is rudimentary, I do think I'm telling a story that's not been tackled before. Flirted with in a lot of '70s films, yes, but not like this. Oh, he definitely isn't.

I'm willing to overlook songs I don't like if a fanvid's good. I've noticed Rihanna is also popular with S/F fanvids. I do wish people would fully utilize Lady GaGa's Bad Romance, because it's tailor-made for them (one of my friends did get started on such a vid, but her computer freaked out and she lost most of what she had saved on her harddrive).
YES YOU SHOULD BECAUSE YES. I have to say, I do love that the S/F corner of the fandom produces so much great stuff for them. Even if, right now, it's just the few of us, we're a dedicated few, which still seems to bother the other fans enough to make whiny secrets on [livejournal.com profile] fandomsecrets.
It was the first I had heard of her, too. My friend wanted something that either focused on the entire cast of IB, or that was focused on Sho/Fred. I liked that the vidder sort of went down the middle and gave focus on her revenge and her relationship with Fredrick.
[identity profile] earthtobells.livejournal.com on September 3rd, 2011 11:41 pm (UTC)
I know, right? Even Ashton kind of disappeared after Punkd.

Oh, if you'd have fun doing it, who cares if it's ridiculous? You'd do it for the lulz.

I actually watched Pulp Fiction first, it was probably the first Tarantino movie I saw. I think I was too young to see it when I did but it's my brother's favourite movie so he made me watch it several times anyway (Vincent and Jules were always my favourites as I got around to liking it). Still, I always get sad when people say it's the only good movie Quentin made (and I hear that A LOT). Okay, he certainly has movies I can criticize easily but it's not fair to him at all. They compare everything to Pulp Fiction and they expected a lot from Basterds.
I've had enough arguments on Kill Bill with friends just for that reason, actually, and as I saw the same thing happen with Fred/Sho, I facepalmed and gave up after a while.
I didn't get around to watching it with my friend like I planned on. I actually got injured from falling down the stairs last week and I'm supposed to be on bed rest so that's definitely a sign for me to watch it now, I guess. It's kind of scary, actually, haha.
Oh, you have no idea. The slash gets really out of hand, as well. I was in the fandom for a while but of course the couple I shipped was doomed from the start as usual and as the writers completely ruined it for me I ended up leaving the fandom.
I find his loyalty to her really sweet. Sure, I adore the guy and could never hate him but honestly, he had numerous very attractive female costars and could have easily ruined his relationship with Vanessa if he wanted to (especially since it's not unusual in the business at all).
It caught my eye that Mel is getting a lot of hate from people because of her love life (whether it's the hate she gets from Damien fans who want Lisa Hannigan back or people who seem to think that Ewan McGregor is cheating on his wife with Mel?). It's sad.
Psh, Quentin probably writes his own Shosanna/Fredrick fanfiction after he watches the footage he won't show to any of us in his basement but I'm sure I can find a way to persuade Eli.

I'm pretty sure I haven't come across to anything quite like it before, either. Of course, my knowledge on the particular subject is very limited, but I still think you have a big chance of creating something great.

I can't stand Rihanna at all, so sadly I tend to at least tune down the music if I watch those videos at all (and it completely loses the point but whatever). Oh, I promise if I do get back into making videos, the first one I'll make will be with that song.
I kind of feel guilty/useless because I noticed IB was the only fandom I haven't created anything for yet but only went around praising people's work, haha.
I find it that whenever I started making a IB vid (I made like 3 or 4 but never published them for some reason) it would somehow end up focusing on either just Shosanna or Shosanna/Fred, so I gave up on those and just made it all about her. So much easier.
http://suspiriorum.livejournal.com/: [film: IB] My baby shot me down[identity profile] suspiriorum.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 07:19 pm (UTC)
At least he has twitter to keep him busy.

Absolutely. Currently (KFAD aside), I'm working on an S/F fic for a friend who wanted something adorable and PG. I still think it's adorable, but it's not so PG.

My dad took my brother to see PF when it came out because my brother, who was always into writing, was big into film and thus, he had to see Pulp Fiction because Quentin was the new, young writer/director in Hollywood. Seeing from the perspective as a father of a teenaged son, my dad wasn't so fond of it. Later, he realized just how good it really is. My dad and I have talked about that, too, about how people treat PF like it's the Holy Grail of Quentin's career. I can see on a basic level why people would think that; it's got this amazingly diverse cast with interlocking stories, whip-smart dialogue (who else would ever think of banter about hamburgers?), shocking scenes of violence, and all of it put together in a style that is wholly original. It is considered to be the most copied film of the '90s for those reasons (I do love the knock-off 2 Days in the Valley, which is like its younger cousin) and I appreciate what it did for film in general; at that point, there was a complete shift in indie films of the mid '90s and onward, mostly for the better.
I hate that Jackie Brown in comparison, was considered a failure because it wasn't what people expected of Quentin. Pulp Fiction, aside from being a great film, came out at the right time, like all cultural phenomenons. It's lightning in a bottle. It can't be replicated or forced, and frankly, if Quentin were to try to do the same thing again, I'd consider it to be a step backward.
I talked about that with my dad, as we re-watched IB together recently, and that led us to talking about the relationships in Quentin's films. They're never the outright obvious ideal people think of when imagining a relationship; they're subtle, almost under the radar. He makes the most out of their interactions without going the usual route other films take, yet they manage to be completely moving. As my dad put it, there's something almost unbelievable about them, such as with the Bride/Bill; if it were reality, such a coupling would be considered impossible, and I think that makes it hard for some audiences to accept. Which is funny, since they're so willing to accept the complete outrageousness of everything else they're seeing. I am so rambling, but yeah, Quentin is unconventional in every sense of the word, especially his romances, which I love, but most have a hard time grasping.

Oh, dear. Are you doing better now? My equilibrium goes off balance sometimes, which has sent me head-first into walls before. It's frightening to lose control like that.
[identity profile] earthtobells.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2011 09:02 am (UTC)
You have no idea how many times I wrote this reply but for some unfathomable reason lj decided to be dead set on not posting it for some reason. Anyway:

The hamburger dialogue is probably the only dialogue I've ever memorized from a movie (me and my brother have this thing of pretending to have that talk whenever we're at Burger King or McDonalds and the amount of people who think we're having a real conversation always amuses me). I completely understand the reason why Pulp Fiction is being treated the way it is and I can't tell you how happy I am that it got the success it deserved at the right time (unlike many amazing movies that go by unnoticed until much later); my only problem is people bashing his other work just because it's not another Pulp Fiction. Yet we'd also be complaining if he kept following the PF structure with all of his other movies, indecisive beings that we are.
I guess that's what makes it harder for people to perceive things like we do (does this mean we're the lucky few to be able to see what Quentin actually meant in his movies? That makes me feel proud :P).
That's absolutely true, that's exactly what pisses me off: We're expected to like the idea of a super hot sparkly immortal vampire falling in love with a plain human girl; we're supposed to like the idea of a (I'm going cliche on this one) jock falling in love with the nerdy math girl, but when it comes to things like Shosanna/Fredrick; oh noez, that is blasphemy.
Oh, I was fine with some physical therapy (I have enough doctors in the family to keep me alive, thank God, lol) but then I got food poisoning this weekend and now I'm coping with that. Luck is really, really not on my side lately.

That would be the case in most tv fandoms, unfortunately they sent my beloved ship down such a road that it's absolutely impossible for them to make it out alive, and I'm no masochist to make myself watch the show with a slim hope, to bear such pain only to be disappointed in the end; so I just left it.
LOL, are you serious? That is hilarious. I wonder if it works, but I'd say, don't fight nature, if it's gonna happen, it'll happen :P
And seeing that most of those rumors were based on a picture of them walking around with their arms interlocked, I highly doubt they're true. Personally I do that with my male friends without any romantic feelings involved whatsoever, but I guess they're making a fuss about it because he's married.
I've read in a lot of places that Damien tends to be an ass in relationships (which suprised me a lot because I figured the man who comes up with such emotional songs would have to be the sweetest person ever) so it probably wasn't Mel. Who knows.
OH if you need help, I'll gladly join you since I'm such an expert on stalking Eli Roth in glorious lands of Italy. For scientific purposes.

Something from Fred's POV would definitely be fun to make (Tom Waits discography here I come), but the lack of scenes would be working against me on making something that hasn't been done before.



http://suspiriorum.livejournal.com/: [act: DK] Blind love[identity profile] suspiriorum.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2011 10:37 am (UTC)
I've had my browser crash on me lately when making posts. Terribly frustrating.

That's how I am with the Like A Virgin monologue in Reservoir Dogs. Oh, absolutely. The influence it had on film is definitely something I'm glad for; film was allowed to be riskier after that. The mid-'90s indie scene is one of my favorite periods of film, as so many great actors and directors kicked off their careers then, and the success of PF had a hand in that. It also made Dan want to act, so that's something to be grateful for, too.
IKR? It seems to be a general reaction to a good work of art, in that we want the creator to almost keep replicating it over and over. Then when that happens, we think it's repetitive and get annoyed and question why they don't take risks. When they don't, we wonder why they don't stick to what works.
We are the lucky few who do and I'm glad there's you and at least a few others who do, too. I always sort of blame that on all my years as an art student, and as I recall, you're the creative kind, too. My other friends who are similar are also artists, and with art and creative outlets, there's an emphasis on focusing on detail (and for those of us who have taken art history, interpretation and analyzation). I sound pretentious right now, but I do wish more people could look beyond the presented surface of things. I think people can, but far too often, we're all too used to so much being spelled out for us so we don't feel a need to.
It still amuses me that in all of the risks taken in fiction, especially film, only in the last decade have two directors been willing to go into such territory with Black Book and Inglourious Basterds. Not even the exploitative '70s films that were so willing to glorify Nazism were willing to touch that subject matter, let alone humanize the very subjects they exploited for cheap thrills. I borrowed a bit from The Night Porter for my screenplay (it's such an awful film, it really is; not so much offensive as it is a big bore) and I boggled at how it was presenting me with this relationship that was supposed to be passionate and it ended so flatly. They're both gunned down, but it's shot from a distance and was so utterly anti-climactic. If anything, a story about a socialist girl and the Nazi who tormented her should end in slow-motion with bullets and blood and an Ennio Morricone score. I mean, give me something to make me care. /tangent

Ugh, I'm sorry to hear that, I really am. But that is good that you have doctors within the family to keep you from keeling over. Sometimes I wish I had the same. Though there are enough librarians who could easily research what ails me, I suppose.

Oh, blech. I've lucked out enough that the one series (Battlestar Galactica) I really followed and adored ended as I felt it should. For those who didn't like the ending, the whining in the fandom still continues on. I remain smug. Starbuck/Anders are my space Sho/Fred. Apollo is such a Marcel.

Landa may love rumors, but I can't stand them most of the time. Recently, for instance, it's rumored that Fassbender could possibly be the father of January Jones' baby. Not that I'd mind that, but there is nothing to go on other than the fact that she refuses to disclose who it is and that they were in a film together. Other than that, there's nothing to indicate the two even did anything.
It always seems to be the most sensitive types to be such asses (like how most horror film directors are total sweethearts).

I will totally need your help. And if we get caught by him, we can easily flatter Quentin into not calling the police. Mentions of Sho/Fred and/or being barefoot might help.

Oh, and Dan is in Ron Howard's film Rush. Principal photography begins next year in the U.K. Currently, Ron is filming racing scenes without Dan and Chris as Chris is filming that Snow White film with Kristen Stewart in Wales. So I gotta have my screenplay all ready to go by next Spring, pretty much.

Tom Waits and Fred is a winning combination (and it'd probably make me so out of joy). Not that you have to, but you could also supplement Fred's scenes with scenes of Paul from Love in Thoughts, to represent a younger Fred before Italy? Just an idea.
[identity profile] earthtobells.livejournal.com on October 8th, 2011 02:42 pm (UTC)
I really try to appreciate the effort when an artist tries something new; but I'll have to admit I also tend to be the person that "misses the old ____". Especially when it comes to music. I don't like it, but that's just how I am sometimes.
You don't sound pretentious at all, that's actually true; I guess we're just used to paying attention to the smallest details. Sometimes I even wish I wouldn't analyze things too much, but that's very rare, mostly I'm just grateful that I do :P
I was kind of expecting Quentin to create something like Ellis/Müntze's story with Fred/Shosanna when I first saw Basterds (her to seduce him to get closer to the Nazi officials, then for them to fall in love, then for him to find out the truth about her and not to give a damn and then for a tragic death...I knew better than to expect a happy ending from Tarantino) and I was a bit disappointed that it didn't happen but I can't complain. (Besides, KFAD satisfied me just as well).
Never saw the whole movie; I had to watch it in my Italian class and didn't speak much Italian at the time so I was confused out of my mind and probably fell asleep, no idea. I was never a fan of stockholm syndrome anyway, so I didn't care either.

I don't even know how it ended! I watched it at the beginning because my best friend was totally obsessed at the time and I always let him choose what to watch, but then I think Heroes came out sometime around then and I started watching that instead.

Oh then it must be him, it just has to.

I hope he doesn't have a thing for small feet cause tall people don't have small feet at all.

That's great! I can't wait to see it. And that must be exciting for you too, but you still have time, so don't stress out too much. I still can't believe they're shooting that Snow White movie. Or better yet I can't believe they chose Kristen Stewart as Snow White, but I'll watch Chris as anything because I'm a hypocrite like that).

You caught me, actually. I was planning on cheating by using manips and scenes from other movies that look like Fred, but I don't if it will work out. I hope so, and thanks for the idea (:

http://suspiriorum.livejournal.com/: [act: ML] Burn until you fade[identity profile] suspiriorum.livejournal.com on October 8th, 2011 03:23 pm (UTC)
Oh, I'm similar with that, too. I'm mostly that way with music, mainly because I get annoyed when an artist's new sound brings in new fans who didn't care previously. I've noticed people can be more open with film in that regard, but not so much music-wise (maybe because music can be more personal with the way it's taken in, rather than watching a film?).
I feel like that at times, too, especially when I end up getting very emotionally involved in it, more so than others. Sometimes I wish I could be able to watch something and be able to walk away from it, but overall, I like that I don't (or else what would I have to post about?).
Sometimes I wish that Fredrick knew the truth of who Shosanna was, but looking at Kill Bill and Reservoir Dogs, Quentin certainly loves having characters with secret identities who get too close to someone else and the tragedy that ensues, especially since it always ends in their feelings being realized right as it comes to an end. It's quite kind, in a way; they know what they feel and they die before anything else can have the chance to ruin or discourage it. It has also has an emotional impact on the audience in a way that's both unexpected and totally rewarding.
Oh, KFAD. I have them at the Zoller residence, now, which means more emotional scenes. I need to get that done soon and posted (right now I'm working on a little fic of them in the projection booth, which has been giving my brain a break).
You're better off. I think the casting was all wrong in regards to his character. The writing and directing could've been better, too. I mean, how am I supposed to care about him when he's sobbing and professing his love for her one moment and then jamming broken glass into her mouth the next? He's not a complex character - he's a poorly written one.

I really liked the ending, as it was fitting for all the characters involved. Though with the show's fans, I've found that people either love it or hate it. Those who hate it are people I don't care to know.

Quentin's an equal-opportunity foot fan. Uma and Diane are certainly a testament to that. Also, I keep getting giddy over Shosanna only being barefoot with Fredrick. Only Quentin would use bare feet instead of complete nudity.

I'm less stressed now and just more excited. KFAD aside, I never knew I could have a story that just demanded to be told. If anything, the premise is interesting. And Chris looks good in the armor. Which just makes me more excited that he and Dan are going to work together. I hope they become BFFs, though August would take offense.

You're welcome! I think it'll work out fine, and I'd love to see it when you're done. ♥
[identity profile] earthtobells.livejournal.com on October 15th, 2011 03:19 pm (UTC)
Ohhhh that just pisses me off. It was like that for Muse; when they had an overload of fans claim they always "loved" the band coincidentally after Twilight came out. Grrrr.
Mainly I get told that I should "chill" and not care as much (but that's usually my brother who doesn't give a damn about anything anyway so I probably shouldn't take it seriously); that's when I always wish I wouldn't.
Sometimes I do too; but then I also don't think I would enjoy seeing the image of Emanuelle as the "perfect girl" he created in his mind to be shattered (even though it kind of was in the end), because naturally his initial reaction wouldn't be "Oh, I don't care if you're a Jew who's using me to kill everyone, let's have babies anyway"...I do think he'd get over it and would still love her, but it would take time, and then you would have to create an entire movie just about those two (and of course would I complain? Of course not).
I could read a hundred fics about the scene in the projection booth and never get bored. Such a great scene. *sniff*
I think it could have been decent if it were handled differently. But then of course, there are numerous movies that went wrong for small things.

That rarely happens, so I'm glad it did. The ending of a story is just as important as the start, if not even more, so it should do it justice.

I would never have noticed that if you hadn't told me, you know? That is incredible, such a small detail to have a meaning like that, it's so well thought of and sweet when you look at it like that. But then others would probably say we were insane to think so. Oh well. Haters gonna hate.

August is already sad and lonely because Fassy is BFFs with Viggo and Vincent and now Dan buddying up to Chris will definitely devastate him. Poor bb.





http://suspiriorum.livejournal.com/: [act: ML] Ain't it a bore[identity profile] suspiriorum.livejournal.com on October 15th, 2011 09:28 pm (UTC)
That reminds me of when the Deftones released White Pony, which was very different from their previous work and ended up winning over a wider audience. I didn't mind, but my friends immediately bought it when they didn't care before, especially since I had been a fan for quite some time (it's still the only Deftones album they own, too).

I've been told that, too! Usually of the "stop taking fiction so seriously" variety, but still.

I'd love to see Fredrick's reaction, and definitely, he would come to terms with it and still love her. It makes me think of the restaurant scene and how she was pleading with him silently to get her out of there; she does trust him on some level, and it's more than just for her own survival. I think she'd ultimately be devastated if he did end up turning on her. I ended up having two interesting dreams about all of that: the first one involved Shosanna, as Emmanuelle, getting closer to Fredrick. She ends up sleeping with him, and though she attempted to rationalize it as a means to secure her plan and keep him on her side, she ended up blurting out her real identity to him. In the middle of having sex. He stops, but briefly, before continuing much more slowly and gently.
The other was him finding out at the lunch with Goebbels, leading to him wanting to protect her and an ensuing Mexican stand-off with the rest of the table. He and Shosanna survive, but he ends up wounded in the shoulder, and she gets him out of there to care for him.

Not to be pushy, but I finished posted that projection booth fic: http://suspiriorum.livejournal.com/115202.html
My friend, after reading it, asked me, "How did you turn this sexual? They were dying!"

Keeping an eye on detail, after having it drilled into me after years of art lessons, has had me take special care with what would or could go wrong with my own writing. It's amazing how it's those little things that can really make or break a work of art.

I almost regret not catching that detail with the bare feet until after I had written that analyzation on the projection booth scene. As I've gone on before, it also helps tie into how Bridget's death was a violation. I'd like to make a picspam of Shosanna/Fredrick with quotes from Quentin, and maybe I'll have to include that, too. Or a compare/contrast scene of the projection booth/Bridget's death. Idk, I have the urge to do something with that. I've found it's easier for people to accept when I segue into it by pointing out the close-ups of Uma's feet in PF and KB, and all of the bare feet in Death Proof. Then I go into Bridget's death and the projection booth scene; people seem receptive to it, and are mostly amazed that QT utilizes bare feet in such a way. I noticed it initially with DP, seeing as how it was supposed to be a grindhouse film (and those generally utilized all sorts of female nudity). Quentin had said it's his version of a rape/revenge film, which were immensely popular in the '70s, and instead of seeing vicious sexual assault, there's a car brutally murdering young women and bare feet on parade rather than conventional nudity.

August is going to have remind Dan that Chris isn't the one helping him sort out his love life concerning a certain French actress. But then, Chris is Thor and Thor would certainly want to help. August refuses to see The Avengers now.

[identity profile] earthtobells.livejournal.com on October 23rd, 2011 08:35 am (UTC)
Oh, just like everyone became a huuuuge Coldplay fan after Viva La Vida. Happens all the time, I've grown immune to it.

I guess those come from people who watch a movie for the sake of watching it; but I think it actually helps writers/artists/musicians to analyze other forms of art... it's a form of inspiration, after all (not that I've been involved with any form of art professionally, but I find it helpful).

I could totally see the second one happeingn (but I'd rather see the first one). *cough* creeeeper *cough*

His face on the silver screen had broken her heart, and in turn, she had broken his.
And you break my heart everytime. *sob forever but have no worry these are also tears of joy* Beautiful as always, really does that scene justice *bows down*

It's certainly unique, but then Quentin's middle name is unique. I didn't quite enjoy Death Proof, to be honest (and neither did my mother...she was even more afraid of driving after seeing it..hilarious) so I didn't even bother to analyze it. But there is definitely a connection QT makes, one so subtle only few people (like you) probably noticed it, as usual.

If Thor doesn't fix this, nobody can. Actually, no, Quentin can. By throwing those two into another movie of his. More time for discovering each other, yes?
http://suspiriorum.livejournal.com/: [act: DB] Don't you understand?[identity profile] suspiriorum.livejournal.com on October 23rd, 2011 09:46 am (UTC)
It's about as obnoxious as when a famous person dies and then people start deciding that they're fans.

Oh, certainly. It's still so odd to me that people can take in some kind of creative work and be able to walk away from it. Whenever I'm at the theater, I like to observe other people in line and wonder if they're there because they really want to get involved in the film-going experience or because they had nothing better to do that day. It really is amazing what you notice once you start looking at things with a more critical/analytical eye.

I definitely want to use that sex scenario in the new multi-part fic I had begun for my friend. She originally wanted something simple and PG, but I'm physically incapable of that with Sho/Fred.

Aw, thank you kindly! I wanted to explore more of the how that scene was their consummation, and of course, since it couldn't be the kind of consummation I've written for them in other fic, I was able to focus on the emotional aspect of it. And I got to work in that beautiful line.

I love the '70s-ness of DP, as it did capture that drive-in/grindhouse feel (sometimes I like to turn on the Italian dub because it then feels like a genuine piece of Italian '70s schlock). Quentin did admit that he had to be in a creepy, leering mindset in order to make the film. I think, starting with KB, that these connections have become more and more pronounced and profound. I also greatly appreciate how open he is to discussing these things, which not only bring clarity to his intentions, but also reveal just how obvious, yet subtle such details are. It reminds me of how Hollywood films operated under the Hayes code for all those decades, with stories relying on subtext because they couldn't be blatant, which showed how much more powerful subtext can be over revealing everything.

I like to picture Chris dressed as Thor, kicking open Mel's front door, slinging her over his shoulder, and taking her to Dan. Then he'll do the same in collecting Quentin, and he'll put them all in a room and have Quentin recreate the projection booth scene without all the subtext and metaphor, because sometimes, you just want to see a French actress and a German actor discovering each other. Without clothes.
[identity profile] earthtobells.livejournal.com on November 11th, 2011 08:35 am (UTC)
Oh yeah, apparently everyone is a die-hard Amy Winehouse fan now.

That's certainly the more fun way of people watching. Lol, it reminds me one time my brother decided to take me out to the movies and choose something I'd like. He ended up choosing New Moon, and it was the midnight premiere. Classy, right? Anyway, I laugh everytime I remember how it must have looked to others that night (a badass looking metalhead with a leather jacket and long hair being stuck between a loud group of teenage twihard girls with a horrified look on his face). It was great.

I completely understand. Not using sex with Fred/Sho is a complete waste of chemistry. Or it's like killing puppies.

It's really amazing how you can analyze one thing in more than one way, it's not something everyone could do so *claps* bravo for that too.

Ah, you'd have no trouble fitting in here in Italy, then. EVERYTHING is dubbed here *facepalm*. I will complain about it, but still, DP isn't that low on my list of best and worst QT movies; that's where From Dusk Till Dawn goes.
It definitely changed over the years, I guess. Like you said, people couldn't possibly talk about everything they had in mind when they created a movie years ago. Certainly more mysterious, but I prefer the way it is now (I guess you could say it's because I like taking the easy way out and hearing everything from the director instead of looking for answers myself, lol).

I love that scenario! And Chris is married, right? Why, you ask, because then nobody can create a Mel/Chris crackship out of the blue and piss me off even more.
http://suspiriorum.livejournal.com/: [film: IB; OTP] Love will tear us apart[identity profile] suspiriorum.livejournal.com on November 11th, 2011 08:56 am (UTC)
Oh, goodness, yes. I love how people in the comms I post in suddenly all had Amy icons.

That is a beautiful mental image and a wonderful story. I'm sure he's learned his lesson in regards to attending midnight premieres of film franchises that are well-loved by teen girls. Still, that was quite nice of him to do.

Exactly. And when it comes down to it, I don't think they'd be able to resist physical contact between each other once they've finally broken through those barriers. They've both been without any kind of meaningful contact with anyone for so long (and for someone as young as Fred with his background, this is the first for him on all levels), so it'd be a relief (in more ways than one) to be able to just be themselves with each other and just be with each other.
/off I go again

Ah, thank you. My brain just never shuts off with those two. Ever.

Ha! My friend who moved off to Germany told me that if there's a film she'd like to see in theaters that's not German, it will be dubbed in German (which, as much as she appreciates the language, is not how she'd like to see Captain America). I love subtlety and I love really getting into nuance and detail, but I love hearing what the creator has to say, too. They work as a supplement to their material, pointing out and confirming things. And so often an actor is asked about their motivation and perspective, so knowing what the writer/director has to say is just as, if not more, important.

He is! And happily so. So far, all of Mel's post-Dan co-stars are all married, which is good. Hopefully, August and Julia have another kid just for good measure, too (because their marriage, child, and their hanging all over each other in public isn't deterrent enough).

http://suspiriorum.livejournal.com/: [film: IB; OTP] Love will tear us apart[identity profile] suspiriorum.livejournal.com on September 10th, 2011 07:21 pm (UTC)
OMG I RAMBLED SO MUCH THAT MY REPLY HAD TO BE CUT IN HALF.

Ahem, anyhow:

The Merlin fandom looks bonkers to me, from an outsider point of view. It's probably best that you got out of it; I've seen the ridiculousness of the IB fandom and others like it, but none of it seemed to be on the scale of Merlin. Television fandoms are, in general, more rabid than film fandoms, as the canon is still open and is thus rife for fighting.

It is sweet of him. He's mellowed on that now, and I can see why he would've been worried over being apart and filming, as Vanessa the first major relationship he was in since Winona (and he was similar with her). Speaking of Ewan, when he and Patricia Arquette worked together, they agreed to eat onions before their love scenes so they could preemptively fight off any attraction to each other.
There was speculation over Mel possibly having had an affair with Ewan, but I think it's baseless. He's close to everyone he works with, from Cameron Diaz (they joked about him living in the trunk at the end of her bed) to Nicole Kidman (it was rumored that he got her pregnant, thus ending her marriage to Tom Cruise). Mel was still working through whatever it was she had with Damien when she was working with Ewan, too (it was after IB and Cannes that it seemed to get serious there with Rice). Mel has been declared the least popular actress in France right now, which is ridiculous. Damien dates every actress ever, too, so it's not like his involvement with Mel was completely her doing.
Quentin totally does. He probably a secret, friends-only LJ he posts it in. Remind me to break into his house to pillage that footage. Because I have to. For scientific purposes.

Thank you, sincerely. The more I work on it, the more it just comes naturally. There are layers to it that I never noticed before, either; I feel as though I'm really creating something a weight and substance to it. Whatever happens to my screenplay, I'm immensely proud of it, especially since I only recently gotten back into writing.

Ha! Well, they're mostly of Shosanna being all angsty with Fredrick being the cause of most of it. YOU ABSOUTELY MUST. But don't feel guilty. But do make a fanvid. Because. For science. For QT, who is lurking about LJ for more S/F.
Something from Fred's p.o.v. would be interesting, I think, and challenging. But, no matter what, as long as their gorgeous death together is in it, it'll be good.